Adding individual songs to KP

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by Paradigm Karaoke » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:49 pm

i can say on .52 i can add songs to an already existing collection and it just adds as it is expected. perhaps he fixed it?

by blade316 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:19 pm

well this thread died in the a$$ didn't it haha :)

by hawke68 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:15 pm

50 still doing all the items i mentioned

by blade316 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:29 pm

Any devs?

by hawke 68 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:06 am

yep..added all my songs earmarked duet) which also showed all the mm and ff duets etc. saved that as my duets collection...searched for all 4 one - i swear selected that one song to add to the duets...on screen there were at least a dozen songs with i and swear after i hit the add selection and the save button it flashed collection updated..connected from the remote terminal..hit my duets button which previously showed all the duet) songs but now shows the dozen or songs from the search before i added i swear by all for one by hitting add selected. it added all visible instead of add selection like i clicked..and it replaced not appended the collection.

by hornet59 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:06 am

hawke 68 wrote:when i add selected songs to a collection it adds all the visible songs, not just the selected one and replace the collection with just those added songs.
After you added the new songs did you click on the "Search Within Selected Collection Only" button? It's the one with the funnel icon on the button that is right next to the "Show All" button. Did you also look at the collection on the remote browser?

by hawke 68 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:52 pm

when i add selected songs to a collection it adds all the visible songs, not just the selected one and replace the collection with just those added songs.

the column width changes at random points during the course of the night not at open and closing skp

by hornet59 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:09 pm

hawke68 wrote:2. when i add a new song to a collection and click on the button on the kiosk it only shows that song instead of all the songs added prior plus that new song.

did i miss a step or something?
Hawke, when you added a new song to the collection and you have your browser open did you press the reload button on your browser? I found that after adding songs to a collection you either have to restart your browser or press the reload button.
hawke68 wrote:edit** couple more items
1. the keep aspect ratio box in the use image on remote kiosk title page settings won't stay checked. I have to recheck it every time I start 43
2. The column width on the remote queue still keeps readjusting from whereever I set them to.

just tried out 45 and its still doing all items i mentioned above. hopefully it gets sorted soon.
I can also duplicate the problem with keeping the aspect ratio box checked. Once I close SKP and go back into the remote queue settings the box is no longer checked.

As far as the column width on the remote queue mine stays put. Closing and opening the remote queue doesn't reset the columns.

by hawke 68 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:48 pm

hawke68 wrote:
hawke68 wrote:playing with 43..problems i am having so far
1. when i click add selected it adds all visible songs to the collection.
2. when i add a new song to a collection and click on the button on the kiosk it only shows that song instead of all the songs added prior plus that new song.

did i miss a step or something?

edit** couple more items
1. the keep aspect ratio box in the use image on remote kiosk title page settings won't stay checked. I have to recheck it every time I start 43
2. The column width on the remote queue still keeps readjusting from whereever I set them to.
i just tried 45 and its still doing all of the above
49 doing this too..also the second page on artists with apostrophe in name and multiple songs clicking on songs still doesnt select them

by hawke68 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:40 pm

hawke68 wrote:playing with 43..problems i am having so far
1. when i click add selected it adds all visible songs to the collection.
2. when i add a new song to a collection and click on the button on the kiosk it only shows that song instead of all the songs added prior plus that new song.

did i miss a step or something?

edit** couple more items
1. the keep aspect ratio box in the use image on remote kiosk title page settings won't stay checked. I have to recheck it every time I start 43
2. The column width on the remote queue still keeps readjusting from whereever I set them to.
i just tried 45 and its still doing all of the above

by hawke68 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:37 pm

playing with 43..problems i am having so far
1. when i click add selected it adds all visible songs to the collection.
2. when i add a new song to a collection and click on the button on the kiosk it only shows that song instead of all the songs added prior plus that new song.

did i miss a step or something?

edit** couple more items
1. the keep aspect ratio box in the use image on remote kiosk title page settings won't stay checked. I have to recheck it every time I start 43
2. The column width on the remote queue still keeps readjusting from whereever I set them to.

just tried out 45 and its still doing all items i mentioned above. hopefully it gets sorted soon.

by blade316 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:36 am

hey guys,

I thought I might chime in here and hopefully offer some input.

I've read through your posts and your idea is good, however I believe you guys are thinking too small, and also a bit too basic.

Essentially all you are asking for is the ability to house more metadata for your songs. SKP obviously already has DB's for its basic song database management, however as we are all aware, at the moment its just basic, which is fine as it does exactly what it needs to do.

From a programming perspective, having the devs introduce the items that you want, sticking with SKP's existing 'on/off' methodology for a lot of its options, in my opinion, is a pretty inefficient way to do it. Also your idea to add a checkboxes for this and a checkboxes for that, along with drop down lists is just crazy, and will only clutter up the UI even more. The UI already has checkboxes and fields everywhere, we don't want to clutter it up even more ..... It would be far more efficient and beneficial for the devs to put control back into the hosts hands, with regards to metadata and song specific information, rather than having to keep adding one thing after the other, each time someone wants a new type of meta data field etc.

So my suggestion is for the introduction of tags .... they are simple, but ultra effective, take up literally no space, and YOU are in full control of what YOU want to tag things with. If any of you are MacOS or Linux users, then you already know what I'm talking about.

So using the example below:
how about this idea....stay with me through the full explanation and this will all come together....
Piotr, this is something that i know others deal with as well on all hosting platforms....explicit songs at private events and family shows.
what if in manage song database, some more columns are added.
*decade* (great for theme nights, but also people will ask "what do you have for 80's rock?", just a dropdown would work)
*genre* (several columns would be great with dropdowns for multiple selections like AC/DC would fall under Rock, Hard Rock, & Classic Rock)
*Duet* (people CONSTANTLY ask what we have for duets. a checkbox would do fine here)
*Language* (also, get asked what we have for Spanish music. another dropdown)
*explicit* (mark a song as having explicit lyrics. another simple check box)
here's how easy it would be with tags, literally would take how ever long for you to type them out, create separate tags for:

80s, Rock, Hard Rock, Classic Rock, Duet, Spanish, Explicit

Then devs would create a corresponding function to then be able to apply those tags in bulk across your song library, and allow you to specify search filters to identify tracks you wish to apply those tags to.

For example:

Step 1: "Please select the tags you wish to apply"
So you select "90s, Rock, English, Clean"

Step 2: "Please select the tracks you wish to apply the tags to"
In this step you should be able to filter using multiple criteria that you specify.

i.e. Name contains "Nirvana" and 'filename prefix' + ' begins with' "SF, SFMW, SFG" .... this would result only in tracks starting with sunfly based prefixes and has Nirvana in them.

Step 3 - Select the tracks within the results, either Select All, or just specific ones.

Step 4 - Apply.

Step 5 - Rinse and Repeat.

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The above is a crude example, but you get the idea, the tags would also be searchable to find songs too. So if you wanted to find all your SoundChoice Country songs from the 90's, search with the tags:

90s, Country, SoundChoice.

Also another thing that is often overlooked, is that metadata for most of these tracks will already exist for the original songs, on many platforms like Discogs, MusicBrainz, Picard, Amazon Music etc .... But no karaoke software to date seems to tap into that to assist the hosts in either cleaning up their libraries, or adding extra data to them. But thats a conversation for another day.

So thats my idea for what I believe is a much better solution to song library metadata management, and putting the control back in the hosts hands. It could also be another big step in setting SKP apart from the other 'big 4' karaoke software vendors.

Cheers!

Daniel

by Paradigm Karaoke » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:46 pm

ok, after playing with it, i think your suggestion to make the new collections searchable by title as well will fix everything.
that way all you need to do is click the checkbox for "no explicit" and uncheck the box for "search for song" and everything will be good.

by Paradigm Karaoke » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:52 am

hawke68 wrote:playing with 43..problems i am having so far
1. when i click add selected it adds all visible songs to the collection.
2. when i add a new song to a collection and click on the button on the kiosk it only shows that song instead of all the songs added prior plus that new song.

did i miss a step or something?
i will mess with it and see. admittedly i have not played with this feature yet.

by Paradigm Karaoke » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:51 am

hornet59 wrote: When I go to the kiosk it still shows all the explicit songs in the regular search. However, now I can display a "No Explicit" choice on the kiosk, which doesn't include the explicit songs. One thing I noticed is that even though I removed the explicit songs it will still show up in SKP's song database in the "No Explicit" collection. I would assume that it should disappear from the "No Explicit" collection song database once it is deleted.

It looks like I would have to hide the regular search features and create a new choice in the remote queue settings called "Browse by Artist" and select the "No Explicit" collection and display just this choice.

I think creating a collection was made to only add another button on the kiosk. So if I created a "Duet" collection I can display a "Duet" choice on the kiosk where clicking this choice will display my duet songs.

*One suggestion Piotr, for the newly created collection can the search be changed to search by both artist or title not just artist?
let me make sure i understand what you are saying.
when you click the box to show "no explicit", you can still search in the kiosk for songs that are explicit even though they should not be displayed?

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